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Are There Limits to Limits?

+/-It’s a debate that’s been with us at least since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution: Is economic growth sustainable, or at some point will we run up against resource scarcities? In its crudest form, the discussion comes down to disagreement between Malthusians, who say that at some point we’ll overreach the planet’s carrying capacity, and Cornucopians, who argue that human ingenuity and technological progress will overcome physical limits. The debate has taken on new urgency today as global climate change and an ever-increasing human population put new strains on resources. John DeGraaf, director of the film Affluenza and writer of an accompanying book, says the market economy’s constant drive for growth is incompatible with a finite planet. Roger Pielke, Jr., an environmental studies professor at the University of Colorado, disagrees, and says that to be anti-growth is to argue for keeping poor people poor.

We Can’t Grow On

by John de Graaf

John de Graaf is a co-author of the recently reissued bestseller Affluenza, as well as What’s the Economy For Anyway? He is a member of the Earth Island Institute board of directors.

Is economic growth sustainable? Is it desirable? First, let’s define our terms. I’m speaking of material growth, more products for more people. Non-material “development” – including improvements in health, education, and leisure time – may well be sustainable and desirable. But further material growth, especially in rich countries, is much harder to justify.

The twentieth-century environmentalist David Brower pointed out that, since World War II, population and economic growth have resulted in greater material consumption than in all previous human history. In that period – one one-hundredth of a second if we compress the age of Earth into a single week – we have reduced our fisheries, fossil fuels, and soils by half while causing the extinction of countless species and dangerously changing the climate.

Consider what it means that we did this in the blink of the geological eye. There are those who believe what we’ve been doing for that last hundredth of a second can go on indefinitely. Those people are, Brower observed, considered reasonable and intelligent human beings. Indeed, they run our governments and industries. But they are stark raving mad.

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Lierre Keith is a hateful transphobic!  The entire movement dislikes her.  Her book that bashes vegans is ridiculous.  She needs another pie in her face.

By Krikit on Sun, May 04, 2014 at 3:34 pm

Roger Pielke Jr. employs the time-honoured economists’ reductionist shell game in discussing labour, materials and productivity as if they were separable items that can be analyzed ‘ceteris paribus.’ Aside from his historical untruths (Luddites were NOT protesting “productivity gains”), Pielke contradicts himself when he capriciously rejects and upholds the same principle when it suits his argument to do so. I am referring to the homology between “Say’s Law” and the “Jevons Paradox”. Say’s Law is the Jevons paradox viewed from the perspective of employment. The Jevons Paradox is Say’s Law viewed from the perspective of material resource consumption. You can’t “solve” one side of the employment/resources problem without exacerbating the problem on other side. Actually, there IS a way to cut through both Say’s Law and the Jevons Paradox and it is precisely this solution that orthodox economists have strenuously objected to for nearly two hundred years. The slander against Luddites has been a mainstay of this opposition.

By Tom Walker on Sat, March 29, 2014 at 12:12 pm

This speech By Lierre Keith from PIELC 2014 is some of the best environmental pieces I’ve heard in a long time.
She says what has to be done, right here.
An inconvenient truth to say the least but someone has to say it.

By Henke on Fri, March 07, 2014 at 1:47 pm

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